Rick Scott posts university salaries online

/ Monday, October 17, 2011

Gov. Rick Scott wants Floridians to know more about university salaries as he pushes for major higher education reforms.

Scott has posted a database online with salary information for more than 52,000 employees at Florida’s 11 public universities.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott meets with the Sarasota Herald-Tribune editorial board on Oct. 10 in Sarasota. (Staff photo / Mike Lang)

The governor’s office said Monday that making the data more accessible is about transparency for taxpayers.

“These are tax dollars and Floridians have a right to know where those tax dollars are being spent,” said Scott spokeswoman Jackie Schutz, who declined to elaborate more broadly on Scott’s larger university reform agenda.

But some faculty members saw the posting of information that already was public — though not as easy to find — as part of an effort to inflame public sentiment against university spending.

“This is hanging people out to roast,” said Tom Auxter, president of the 5,000-member union that represents university faculty. “The governor is just trying to target faculty and make them uncomfortable.”

Auxter said the data is misleading because it does not give people an understanding of faculty responsibilities. Many professors take on administrative duties and have other responsibilities that could lead to larger salaries, said Auxter, a philosophy professor at the University of Florida.

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An explanation posted with the data notes that some employees are paid from multiple pots of money. For employees like athletic coaches with complex financial arrangements, the data may not reflect their full compensation.

While the salary information already is public and available to anyone who looks hard enough, political observers said Scott’s effort to centralize the data and make it more accessible is pure politics.

“It seems like a political move designed to draw attention to it,” Christopher Mann, a political science professor at the said University of Miami, a private school not part of the state university system.

The governor is proposing a series of university accountability measures designed to cut costs and increase productivity. Scott has been touting a plan that calls for tougher faculty evaluations with more student input. He also is raising questions about tenure, the faculty promotion system that provides job security, and wants to shift resources to degree programs with the best job prospects.

Last week, Scott generate a furor when he suggested to the Herald-Tribune editorial board that Florida’s economy would be better served if state universities spent less time teaching social sciences like anthropology and psychology, and focused more on courses like math and technology.

Before the recent post of faculty salaries, Scott has published a variety of state financial data online. Salaries for a range of state employees are included on his “Florida Has a right to Know” website but the university data is highlighted in a separate spreadsheet.

Scott drew attention to employee pension data during his campaign to reform the state pension system, publishing a list of workers with annual pensions of $100,000 or more.

The Legislature passed a bill this spring forcing state employees to contribute 3 percent of their salaries to pension costs.

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But unlike public pensions, which many private sector workers view as overly generous, Mann, the Miami political science professor, said there is more sympathy for public universities.

“There’s a very real risk that he goes to far,” Mann said. “There are a lot of very loyal graduates of Florida’s public universities and they don’t take it lightly when anyone attacks their alma mater.”

Auxter, the union president, said the more faculty feel under the attack, the harder it will be for Florida universities to recruit qualified professors to train the state’s work force.

“This whole thing is going to do more than backfire on the governor, it’s going to backfire on the state economy,” Auxter said.

The data shows the University of Florida leading the pack in compensation with 70 of the 100 highest paid employees.

Of the 10 top university earners, seven work at UF and three work at the University of South Florida. All are doctors affiliated with the medical schools.

The highest paid employee at Sarasota’s New College, which routinely ranks as one of the most affordable elite public universities, is President Gordon “Mike” Michalson at No. 799.

The average salary for all university workers statewide is $50,926.

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Bill Finn
Monday, October 17, 2011 at 5:03 pm

So why doesn’t Scott also post the salaries of all government officials as well? Why ONLY the teachers? I could maybe understans and it would seem more fair if ALL government workers drawing at the public till were listed, not just single out the one group.

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Todd Hunger
Monday, October 17, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Dear Bill, every state salary is available on the internet and as a general proposition I fully support that info being available to the public SINCE “WE” taxpayers are the one’s paying their salary. It was through this info that I learned our Sarasota State Attorneys’ SECRETARY makes over $80,000.00 per year-yes his SECRETARY-although obviously Scott is posting for political reasons. What requires a little digging but also is available on the State elections site is which lobbyists gave to which candidate. If you want to predict a candidates behavior or understand a ridiculous position or policy, this is where to gain your evidence of corruption, pandering and special treatment. FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR FINDINGS ABOUT WHO IS BUYING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS B/C THE MEDIA RARELY DIGS THAT DEEP LIKE THEY SHOULD.

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Sebastian McGarigle
Monday, October 17, 2011 at 5:39 pm

How about posting everyone’s salary (and benefits), including those of the people who work on Wall St and of all the bankers and of all reporters (especially financial reporters), of talk show hosts including radio and TV, and the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and O’Reilly and all CEOs, CFOs and alike. Everyone should know.

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megamike
Monday, October 17, 2011 at 6:56 pm
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Michael
Monday, October 17, 2011 at 7:23 pm

How is Florida suppose to attract the nations best and brightest researchers and innovators in such a hostile environment? Most of the highest paid professionals are medical researchers, and just one advancement leads to billions of dollars in revenues and thousands of jobs… A neuro-scientist on the open market fetches well over a million a year, and at USF they get 400K, but they do it because they are dedicated to medical advancement. Universities are a primary driver of economic growth and Rick should be fighting to double their budgets, and bring professors salaries up to national standards, instead he is hurting our chances of growth. Attacking Universities is simply bad economics and a job killer.

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sara sand
Monday, October 17, 2011 at 7:43 pm

Why doesn’t Rick Scott post the amount he ripped off from Medicare and Medicaid while he was with HCA?

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Moira
Monday, October 17, 2011 at 10:52 pm

How about bringing K-12 salaries to a level where FL can attract and retain qualified teachers? Maybe then FL universities can have a hope of attracting and retaining qualified students. No? Aw, heck. All right, Gov Scott, just cut to the chase. Do away with education altogether and reinstate the feudal system. Serfs’ up!

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Ed Smith
Monday, October 17, 2011 at 11:41 pm

“But some faculty members saw the posting of information that already was public — though not as easy to find — as part of an effort to inflame public sentiment against university spending.”

It’s OUR (taxpayers) money! We should get to know how it gets spent. Don’t cry foul when the people paying you want to know how much they’re paying you.

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James
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 1:48 am

It’s nice to see what our Marxist professors are making. The only ones who are earning their salaries are probably the doctors.

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joe
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 3:12 am

in indiana every public employees salary in posted on line and easy to find.
these teachers need to get over it.

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Dono
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 6:32 am

And Gov. Lex Luthor continues to push for dumbing down of Americans.

I just hope that a good professor is seen in that light. Good teachers are not easy to find. You get what you pay for.

Why else would baldy not publish what his salary was when he defrauded Medicare or how many stock he has in the drug testing company doing the welfare people. Why else would he not compare these salaries to teachers of other prestigious universities?

He’s just attempting to muddy the waters before a major push to kill education in FL.

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Jimbo
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 6:47 am

Much as I dislike the toad, public salaries are a matter of public record. Of course, many public records here are difficult to obtain. It all depends upon whose ox is being gored, or rather exposed. It being Scott, I’m sure the information will be put to bad use. That our kids go to college up North, and for the same $$ as here, has more and more become a relief.

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matt weidner
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 7:16 am

The only saving grace from all this is Scott is hanging himself. Despite the nutjobs that elected this kook, he is constantly kicking the sleeping, lazy dog that is our democracy….and soon the dog will bite back. Now where are all of Rick Scott’s emails? Remember, knowingly destroying public records is an impeachable offense under Ch. 119….exactly where does this issue fit into Scott’s “the public has a right to know” office? Wake up people this is no longer a dress rehersal.

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Jim
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 7:37 am

Why does he not post the settlement he made with the US Government after he rip off the tax payers for over a billion dollars. This guy is a joke, the sooner we get him out of office the better Florida will be. He got a $300 million dollar buy out when he should have been put in jail. wow we need a recall, this guy has to go!

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Scott Friend
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 7:42 am

The Sarasota Herald-Tribune has a “Rick Scott Watch” now in place.

When did the definition of “Watch” change to “Attack”.

Many of us might die die of shock if anything positive about our elected Governor appeared in these pages!

Ahhh! Freedom of the press to Report. Yeah! Right!

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Joe
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 8:17 am

The funniest part of this story is that the mouthpiece for these professors is a philosophy teacher. Exhibit A in the problems in the higher Ed system. He’s definitely churning out “occupiers”, not workers.

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FreeMars
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 8:36 am

All state employees EXCEPT the governor’s staff have their salaries posted. For that information you still need to file a public records request and then fight in court to get the information….

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Tired
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 8:40 am

What you will soon find out is Mr Scott intends to privatize the Universities at which point you won’t have to worry about your Tax Dollars, but you will need to sell your house, work 4 jobs and take out a loan if you want to send your kids to college. LOOK at the big picture, this guys is all about small Government and little regulations, let’s see where that get us. K ?

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Bri
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 9:25 am

Why does he block and protect from any public dissemination where insurance payment dollars go?They move all their profit into shell offshore corps,while the Governor nods approvingly and encourages them to gouge Floridians more.

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Big Bad Wolf
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 9:36 am

USF has over 817 people making over $100,000 including NUMEROUS full and part-time professors making between $200,000 and $500,000!!!!! Now I know why tuition has skyrocketed. And all of these teachers who will make millions of dollars from us taxpayers, will suckle even more with their pensions. How can a part-time teacher make 3-8 times what a Sarasota County Sheriff??? This is SHAMEFUL and there needs to be some balance, rather then screwing over other state employees.

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Jen
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 10:56 am

As a university employee, I don’t have a problem with my salary being posted; like many have said, *some* of my earnings are paid for with taxpayers’ dollars. INCLUDING MINE – I’m a taxpayer, too! I chose to work in higher ed (first at a community college and now at a university) because I liked the idea that I was working for something more than simply making somebody else money. Back *before* the recession, I could have done the same job (I’m not faculty) in the private sector for more money–higher ed’s recruitment point was that the lower salary was made up for with excellent benefits–benefits that are slowly being eroded. Now, frankly, I just feel blessed to have a job.

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JOSE
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 11:06 am

WOW WOW WOW NO WONDER WE THE TAX PAYERS HAVE EVERY LAST CENT SUCKED OUT OF US…THANK YOU GOV SCOTT FOR MAKING THIS EASY TO FIND AS I NEVER WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHERE TO LOOK OR FIND THIS INFO BEFORE THIS IS JUST UNREAL AND IT HAS TO STOP NOW

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MR WILSON
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 11:12 am

This information should be printed on the front page of the newspaper so the tax payers who work all day and dont have time to search for hours on the internet to find this information can now see why there is nothing left in their paychecks checks at the end of the week

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JOSE
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 11:15 am

THIS IS WAY THE TAX PAYERS HAVE EVERY LAST CENT SUCKED OUT OF US…THANK YOU GOV SCOTT FOR MAKING THIS EASY TO FIND AS I NEVER WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHERE TO LOOK OR FIND THIS INFO BEFORE THIS IS JUST UNREAL AND IT HAS TO STOP NOW

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Amala
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 11:27 am

Good. I’m glad these folks who have worked so hard in their academic and publishing careers are getting paid well. Most probably deserve more. State employee salaries have always been a matter of public record. This is Rick Scott trying to stir up hate at academia by the ignorant.

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Charles
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 11:43 am

Thank you, Governor Scott! We, the taxpayers, are being bled dry. We need to take a long hard look at our universities, and how they can better provide a real career for students at graduation. I do not want to fund unneeded, ivory-tower academics with tenured job protection and lifelong benefits unless it can be proven that their work is valuable to the students’ ability to earn a living throughout their lives.

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MER
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 12:23 pm

Once again the governor of Florida has shown why he was a mistake.

What purpose has publishing the salaries of educators in the Florida university system served the public? This has all the hallmarks of a political tool, particularly since they were available already online.

I find it frightening that Mr. Scott wants to remodel the universities, possibly removing programs that don’t serve a “practical” purpose in his eyes. I imagine he would probably start to dismantle the Arts programs, history, literature, those that in his opinion won’t lead to “jobs”. GUESS WHAT Mr. Scott, there aren’t any JOBS, certainly not in the state of Florida.

I don’t see you going after the exhorbident college sports programs that often don’t lead to much of anything for a majority of their participants. Many don’t finish with degrees, leaving school early to chase that elusive pot of gold on the Professional level. There seems to be a disconnect happening, and it starts in the highest office in this state. Possibly a lobotomy is required.

PS: This article could have used a serious re-edit. There were many strange transitions, awkward sentences and just plain bad grammer. SHT should do better. Maybee the time has come to combine all the Florida and local news with the comics into a single section and add it to the New York Times. Just a Thought.

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Gregory McColm
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 1:11 pm

If you check my name (under USF) you will find that I am listed as a 0.75 % employee. That is an error; I am full-time. If that is typical of the database, it should be taken with a grain of salt.

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Jeff
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 1:17 pm

It’s not the posting that’s a problem. In fact, anyone with any competence who researches salaries in other places (in both the U.S. and abroad) can use this to determine how grossly underpaid MOST of the professors in this state really are. Bear in mind that professors and teachers are professionals who train for several years and take on a responsibility that exceeds many other jobs. So of course we hear from people with little understanding of education that teachers are making more than (fill in the blank here), and they seem to want professors and teachers to earn minimum wage, or work for tips, or whatever.

Also, to address some other comments, most professors are not upset at the fact of Scott posting salaries but rather the intent and manner. He has not made issue with other state employees–paid entirely out of public coffers and most far exceeding the average professor’s salary. The method he used creates a hostility toward his action, not toward the posted material, itslef.

Finally, we need to consider an inaccuracy. A university employee’s salary is comprised also of tuition money. In order to keep costs down, these schools are supplemented by taxpayers, but over 50%–in most cases–comes from tuition. So you, griping taxpayer, pay only half of what you think you pay. Now, we can fix this if the legislature permits Florida to immediately raise tuition to something even CLOSE to the national average. Then, you can keep all of your tax money, and we’ll just charge the students the TRUE value of education, but most couldn’t afford it. In fact, education is invaluable, so what is anyone complaining about?

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WhyNot
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 2:04 pm

Why are they objecting to salary disclosure if it’s aleady public information? Me thinks there are many that feel they’re over paid.

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WhyNot
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 2:14 pm

This infomation and much more ahs been avaiable for a long time. Why the whining?

http://www2.tbo.com/fact-finder/government-salaries/

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B.S.
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 2:50 pm

People, all Rick Scott is doing is creating a “smoke screen” to take the pressure off of himself, and put it on people who are a valuable resource to everyone all over the world Teachers / Professors. The type of degree that you earn in college doesn’t always reflect what your occupation will be in.

I would like to know what Rick Scott is doing to promote the state as a whole, not pick and choose what he personally will feel be the best for the state’s economic status.

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Tim
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 5:15 pm

Let me see all State employees pay and benifits as “easy” to see who was arrested, and why, but not convicted of a crime??????????????????

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She-Devil
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 7:33 pm

Perhaps they should list the other forms of compensation, such as stipends, bonuses, incentives as well as other discrete forms of additional compensation not included in their definition of their disclosed “salary”. I can only imagine what the administrative staff compensation would equate to, particularly since the data was excluded from the available list. Maybe their W-2 gross earnings would present a more accurate methodology for public disclosure. Incidentally, how many annual work days are represented? For those of us who enjoy statistical data, it would be interesting to be able to determine the actual hourly rate of compensatory pay for any post-secondary educational institution or governmental agency, not just the universities. Unfortunately, secondary education is the red-headed step-child in terms of funding, since the preponderance of their support consists of local funding which is rapidly declining with the state of the economy. Even more unfortunate, the parents of the children in our secondary educational system, attempting to teach their children right from wrong, will be faced with the inability to pay for a secondary education for their kids. The level of arrogance of the post-secondary educational system as a whole and the blind tolerance at the state level by self-serving politicians is simply appalling.

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Mimi
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 8:38 pm

As others note, this is already public. Posting it would be more valuable however if the details were better and the search more refined; some context like comparable salaries at private institutions or publics in other states would really help.

-.75 is for those who are 9-month employees: most faculty are only paid for 9-months of teaching, although they are expected to produce research as well. No, we don’t have “summers off”–we’re unemployed, though that’s when we are usually doing most of our required research or teaching summer session for extra pay.

-most faculty have “terminal degrees”–that’s a PhD in most fields, which takes usually 6-8 years in Humanities, sometimes more like 5 in Sciences where funding cuts down on the amount of teaching grad students have to do. So you’re talking about 9-12 years of university-education plus earning promotion by extensive review of your teaching, scholarship, and institutional service for any of these salaries.

-to be at all competitive, entering salaries for new professors w/PhDs or MFAs are at least $50K. That’s pretty close to entering salary for most good business jobs which require a BA or BS. That’s what a lot of Florida public universities’ recent graduates are making actually.

-Some fields pay better, usually those where there are good industry jobs (Business, Economics, some Chemistry, some Poli Sci, etc.); some fields pay less. This is also true of most administrative positions–though some people take lower pay for working in what is essentially a public service.

-faculty at institutions that teach graduate students pay more than those who teach only undergraduates; this is reflected pretty clearly.

-Details of extra assignments (chair of department, administrative assignments, etc.) would also clarify some out-of-line salaries, but aren’t included or separated out clearly here.

Remember, these folks taught your legislators and neighbors, will teach most of your kids, and even teach future teachers and university professors. As others point out, state funding doesn’t fully fund our state universities. Most raise money from private donations, alumni gifts, sports and other sales, etc. In fact, state contributions in Florida and elsewhere have been dropping for years. So these salaries aren’t actually paid from FL residents’ taxes–i.e. sales tax, at least not fully. And in-state tuition here is one of the best deals in the country–mostly because a lot of Fl faculty and university employees are really really dedicated despite their relatively low pay.

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AntiTallahassee
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 10:01 pm

If he posts these salaries by name, then all state employee salaries should be posted by name. Every contract should also be posted with the cost of the contract. I support more transparency.

In truth the Governor is playing politics. He is a first class s c u m b a g.

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mr public
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 10:17 pm

Good about time we know what each professor earns. Those who are opposed are prob ably overpaid

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Jbet
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 at 5:46 am

My question is how much did he spend putting together this website?